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tuna-fish_sushi · Jul 17, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

*Warning* this does not always net in cash profit, I am not liable for losses.

First of all this is just an idea for the people that have never thought of it.

I found a way to get some good mods for cheap. Ever notice those people in int d1 kamadan spamming 7max gold unid=4k or 5max q9= 6k?

Well i decided to try one of those, and for 4k i got 3 gold req 13 shields and some req 10-13 weapons. I identified them to find that one of the shields had a luck of the draw -5 (20%), and i also got a 15^50 inscription from a weapon. I just made 5k+ easily from that simple little trade.

So, i used this to my advantage and bought more and got some nice 10%furious sword mods and a 20/20 sundering axe. I ended up making about 20k in the matter of 10 minutes.

Now, first of all we know that these people test the items for +30 health mods so dont expect those. But some things are harder to test for and are still worth good money. If you decide to try these please note that you will not always win but your only wasting a little amount ~4k-5k.

A little trick is to try trading with different spammers and see which ones net you the best mods, for instance one of them may test for a specific mod but the other might not. If you find a person that gets you good quality items then keep trading that same person.

Pro's:
1). Your not wasting time doing boring farming.
2). You have a chance to make decent-good profit.
3). You gain points towards collector of wisdom title.
4). If you lose you didnt lose big time. If all mods stink you can still merchant them for 1.5k-2k and gain some money back.
5). If they are bots at least you can make some money off of them since they are basically the ones that nerfed farming. (MY OPINION)

Con's:
1). You may lose your money.
2). You may be supporting bots.

EDIT: I am not trying to promote these guys. I am just telling a little secret that net me some money which is what most people want.

korcan · Jul 17, 2007, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi

Con's:
1). You may lose your money.
2). You may be supporting bots.

more like "you will be supporting bots".

i dont really care if you do or dont but some people might be against the idea simply on principle.

Government Flu · Jul 17, 2007, 06:47 AM // 06:47

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*Warning* this does not always net in cash profit, I am not liable for losses.

So your thread reads "How To Make Extra Cash" yet there's a disclaimer warning the reader that there is cash loss involved. Doesn't make sense.

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1). Your not wasting time doing boring farming.

No offense, but peddling items another person sold to you is an extremely boring activity. I'd rather look at the same boss's ugly mug instead of monitoring trade ads. I've done things like this before, for instance selling a green sword for 55k when I originally paid 50 for it...

...It can sometimes become very time consuming and chances are, no matter how popular the mod you're trying to sell is, it might take a long time to get rid of it. (Sometimes it takes 2 minutes, sometimes 30.)

I know these high risk options can prove to be profitable at times, but it is my belief that standard looting can easily overshadow any gold made re-selling mods.

And plus, you won't be spending any money making money by looting, unless you are doing the elite missions, in which case only 1k is required. And if you're good, you won't lose that 1k for nothing often.

Anyway, just throwing in my two cents.

Arcane_Penguin · Jul 17, 2007, 07:04 AM // 07:04

They sell uid items because people will want to buy them and id them for the wisdom titles.

TideSwayer · Jul 17, 2007, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Of course, now that you've bought unid's from a bot, he/she/the bot company will now be harassing you every day with "wtb unid?". It's like a telemarketer or leaving your yahoo.com email address in a public place. People you don't want to bother you will now start to.

twicky_kid · Jul 17, 2007, 07:23 AM // 07:23

The main problem with this is that items can be tested for mod values before you id it. You are going to get a lot of duds.

TideSwayer · Jul 17, 2007, 07:28 AM // 07:28

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

The main problem with this is that items can be tested for mod values before you id it. You are going to get a lot of duds.

I have a friend that bought lots of unid's for his Wisdom title. Generally, he got some good stuff there. Even some of the golds themselves were worth keeping.

My one suggestion for anyone who does this is to NOT buy any gold unid armors. They can strip the runes and really sell you a 'dud'.

Redfeather1975 · Jul 17, 2007, 07:59 AM // 07:59

I bought some unid golds off a runner in Raisu Palace.
I still use some of them.

freekedoutfish · Jul 17, 2007, 08:11 AM // 08:11

I really dont understand why people have to use over-the-top, complicated means to make gold.

For those who want to make some gold, read this....

Pick up every item and piece of gold during runs, quests, missions, farming, vanquishing, promotion earning, etc etc etc!

Now the complicated bit..... sell it all to the merchant.

You can make 1-5k or more, very easily with just one run of a quest or instance. Do that a few times and you have a very easy 10k in a short amount of time.

You dont need to use complicated trading techniques, bots or scams to make gold. You dont even need to spend hours farming.

And always ID items because it will increase their value at merchant!

Are we all clear on this very simply technique.

wingzro · Jul 17, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

I really dont understand why people have to use over-the-top, complicated means to make gold.

For those who want to make some gold, read this....

Pick up every item and piece of gold during runs, quests, missions, farming, vanquishing, promotion earning, etc etc etc!

Now the complicated bit..... sell it all to the merchant.

You can make 1-5k or more, very easily with just one run of a quest or instance. Do that a few times and you have a very easy 10k in a short amount of time.

You dont need to use complicated trading techniques, bots or scams to make gold. You dont even need to spend hours farming.

And always ID items because it will increase their value at merchant!

Are we all clear on this very simply technique.

But that's boring. Sitting in town trading is where the action's at.

Arcane_Penguin · Jul 17, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

I've bought a total of 14 unids, kept a skeletion sheild req 9 16 AL with health mods (+59 when hexed), and a few other weapons (bows, etc) which I gave to my other chars and to my friends. then sold the rest for 10k

freekedoutfish · Jul 17, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by wingzro

But that's boring. Sitting in town trading is where the action's at.

Ah yes, the endless hours of fun posting "<WTS>" or "<WTB>" in an outpost. About 2 hours later someone takes a look and then just walks off without a word.

I've such fond memories of selling and buying stuff, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!!

Government Flu · Jul 17, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Ah yes, the endless hours of fun posting "<WTS>" or "<WTB>" in an outpost. About 2 hours later someone takes a look and then just walks off without a word.

I have to agree with that. I used to sell low end items or even some high end ones but these days I lack the patience to do it. Usually if I find a gold, I identify it, and then I sell it to a merchant NPC. I've become too tired running my ad through multiple towns and outposts to make a couple extra coins.

Even some green weapons take a long time, like that one weapon I found off a dervish boss...Guru said it was worth 20k but no one was even whispering me so I eventually sold it for an extremely low price. I just can't stand watching all that pink text whiz by for too long, I guess.

God Apprentice · Jul 17, 2007, 10:39 AM // 10:39

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Originally Posted by Government Flu

So your thread reads "How To Make Extra Cash" yet there's a disclaimer warning the reader that there is cash loss involved. Doesn't make sense.

Basic economics. To make money one must spend some money.

Kinn · Jul 17, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Ah yes, the endless hours of fun posting "<WTS>" or "<WTB>" in an outpost. About 2 hours later someone takes a look and then just walks off without a word.

I've such fond memories of selling and buying stuff, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!!

Sarcasm undetected on the internet - news at Eleven.

TheRaven · Jul 17, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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Originally Posted by TideSwayer

Of course, now that you've bought unid's from a bot, he/she/the bot company will now be harassing you every day with "wtb unid?". It's like a telemarketer or leaving your yahoo.com email address in a public place. People you don't want to bother you will now start to.

Sooo true!!! I saw a seller in Kamadan hawking:
"WTS Tomes Ranger 500g, Monk 800g, Assassin 400g, Warrior 500g"

So, I whispered him and said I'd buy all his Assassin tomes. He opened trade and put up 10 tomes. I paid 4k and left. He opened trade again and put another 10 tomes. Again, I paid 4k. Again, he opens trade with another 10 and I bought. Next he puts up 50 tomes. I declined, and by this time I realized I was trading with a bot. (Or at least an non-English speaking gold farmer)

I still get whispers from this guy occasionally asking me to buy tomes, unid's, gold, mods, minipets, etc, etc, etc.

I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, I can get the tomes I need extremely cheap off the bots, but I really hate supporting bots. Usually if I see someone in town advertising......"WTS <class> tomes, 2 available 500g each", I'll snatch them up. If I see "WTS <class> tomes, 143 left only 400g", I'll stay away since it's most likely a bot.

freekedoutfish · Jul 17, 2007, 12:25 PM // 12:25

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Originally Posted by TheRaven

Sooo true!!! I saw a seller in Kamadan hawking:
"WTS Tomes Ranger 500g, Monk 800g, Assassin 400g, Warrior 500g"

So, I whispered him and said I'd buy all his Assassin tomes. He opened trade and put up 10 tomes. I paid 4k and left. He opened trade again and put another 10 tomes. Again, I paid 4k. Again, he opens trade with another 10 and I bought. Next he puts up 50 tomes. I declined, and by this time I realized I was trading with a bot. (Or at least an non-English speaking gold farmer)

I still get whispers from this guy occasionally asking me to buy tomes, unid's, gold, mods, minipets, etc, etc, etc.

I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, I can get the tomes I need extremely cheap off the bots, but I really hate supporting bots. Usually if I see someone in town advertising......"WTS <class> tomes, 2 available 500g each", I'll snatch them up. If I see "WTS <class> tomes, 143 left only 400g", I'll stay away since it's most likely a bot.

Could Anet ban your account for dealing with a bot?

Kind of like buying stolen goods from a known criminal!

Martin Alvito · Jul 17, 2007, 12:40 PM // 12:40

Ugh...please let there be no more reasons to ban people. It doesn't work anyway. All banning accomplishes is cut into the botters' profits; it doesn't eliminate them. This has the net effect of eliminating "small" botters such as individuals, forcing botting operations to nations where labor is cheap, and compelling the botters to develop labor efficiencies and economies of scale. In fact, the crowding out of small operations may very well have the net effect of improving the livelihood of those botters who DO manage to take advantage of economies of scale. Less supply DOES mean higher prices for the product.

Bots will be a problem until the day ANet (or another game developer) gets smart and ties the availability of all desired item skins to in-game accomplishments such as title tracks. Or until the wage differential between the developed world and the developing world levels out. My wager is that the former will happen first.

Miral · Jul 17, 2007, 12:58 PM // 12:58

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Could Anet ban your account for dealing with a bot?

Kind of like buying stolen goods from a known criminal!

considering you really dont know if they are really a bot or not... I'd say no. only anet support knows what is really a bot.

HuntMaster Avatar · Jul 17, 2007, 01:15 PM // 13:15

May i ask a possible "Newb" question? ty.

why dont people use guru Buy/Sell section as their primary trade source?

another option is to make a personal website and post all items on it with prices and your IGN to be pmed for offers. then instead of spamming specific items, you could just post your site address link and players could brouse through long lists of items for sale? thats what i normally do.

1 post linking to a site containing many if not hundreds of trade items.

players unwilling to test link will lose out on the deals, while others who do may find some very special offers.

[edit] buying unid golds is a good idea because you get title track food and possible "godly" items.
someone sold me an unid chaos axe (gold) for 2k and i sold that axe for 60k. so buying unids can definitly payoff.